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    kanarinac slavujar

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by xyz on pon 17 stu - 23:35

    Andy, maybe is the best learn young canaries with original nightingale song?

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by Gost on pon 17 stu - 23:58

    Svaka cast,jako dobar slavujar,nego saso jeli ovo tvoj kanarinac!?? =)

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by andiok on uto 18 stu - 0:34

    drazenxp je napisao/la:Andy, maybe is the best learn young canaries with original nightingale song?
    i know dude !
    i already have learnt 2 jung males, but as i bought a pair of Slavujars and they have laid 4 eggs now, i wanted to learn them the Slavujar's song. That's why i need that CD

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by andiok on uto 18 stu - 0:37

    saso78 je napisao/la:Where in Macedonia have bought slavujar?

    Who is that breeder?

    See this:Macedonian slavujar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RBpcLfVgA8
    IN Struga there was an old man (named drakan). A friend of mine sent me to him and he had about 50 birds (only slavujars). he told about this Slavujar CD that he hadn't anymore.
    anyway i sow that Milan Pi posted a CD with Slavujar song. But the host keepmyfiles.com and the other one have not the file anymore. So please post it to rapidshare or some were else so i would have it.

    please help me friends


    Zadnja promjena: andiok; uto 18 stu - 11:25; ukupno mijenjano 2 put/a.

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by saso78 on uto 18 stu - 1:53

    markoxp je napisao/la:Svaka cast,jako dobar slavujar,nego saso jeli ovo tvoj kanarinac!?? =)

    Ovo je slavujar mog najdobrog druga koji gaji iskljucivo slavujare,ali sad nije ni njegov prodao ga nekim grcima...

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by Gost on uto 18 stu - 4:04

    Ah,steta tako dobra i kvalitetna ptice,a sta rec,covjeka je samo iskvario novac a da od drugome ne govorim!

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by andiok on uto 18 stu - 11:26

    saso78 the slavujars i bought in macedonia sing more pices of nightingales than this on youtube, and what's more important they DO NOT HAVE ANY PIECE OF CANARY SONG. But this one on youtube has 3-4 parts of bastard canary. Some friend of mine told me that the best slavujars are in Serbia. But Serbia is a little far from Albania so i better like the Macedonian ones. hahah

    Anyway im learning now about this canary slavujar. Does anyone now with what species of canary did they crossed to have as result a canary. As i understand from the color and the song they crossed HARZ ROLLE X MALINOIS or HARZ ROLLER X TIMBRADO.
    Let me know if anyone has information about the slavujar origins and technics of raising a good slavujar

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by saso78 on uto 18 stu - 19:20

    To get slavujare to learn this song slavujarsku should be at least 4 generations.

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by saso78 on uto 18 stu - 19:27

    A canary bird-slavujar on youtube not the general canary tour... which sings on the CD and CD is Srbski ... Only briefly has recorded.Canary have several of the song.

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by Gost on uto 18 stu - 21:55

    If you want really gratest singers,you need really good CD with songs!

    It s a pitty you haven t got any CD with songs!

    It s easy if you buy some CD,but all CD are not goods!

    You must buy CD or dowload,but that song must be very great,i see on you,you are really lover of birds!!!

    Pozdrav-Cheers! cheers

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by andiok on uto 18 stu - 22:42

    saso78 je napisao/la:A canary bird-slavujar on youtube not the general canary tour... which sings on the CD and CD is Srbski ... Only briefly has recorded.Canary have several of the song.
    do u know anyone who has a good CD with slavujar songs ??
    if yes please help me contact with him

    thnx anyway i see that u r very friendly and i am glad to be a member of your forum, even if i do not find any cd or songs.

    Thanks to all of u
    Love and Peace

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by andiok on uto 18 stu - 22:46

    markoxp je napisao/la:If you want really gratest singers,you need really good CD with songs!

    It s a pitty you haven t got any CD with songs!

    It s easy if you buy some CD,but all CD are not goods!

    You must buy CD or dowload,but that song must be very great,i see on you,you are really lover of birds!!!

    Pozdrav-Cheers! cheers
    i understand u well. that's why i asked u help if anyone on this forum own any of these CD and SHARES THEM with others.

    Razumijem u dobro. Zato sam pitao u pomoć ako bilo tko na ovom forumu vlastitu bilo koji od ovih CD-a i dijeli s drugima.
    nadam se da je dobro napisano na hrvatskom jeziku.
    sretno

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by andiok on uto 18 stu - 22:55

    saso78 je napisao/la:To get slavujare to learn this song slavujarsku should be at least 4 generations.
    4 generations of what kind of canary ??
    From whom must descend the generations??

    explain a little bit more what u mean by at least 4 generations

    thnx

    4 generacija kakav kanarinac?
    Od koga moraju spuštati na koljena?

    objasniti malo više što u znači najmanje 4 generacije

    thnx

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by Gost on sri 19 stu - 0:01

    Zelio je reci da bi oni tek mozda mogli nauciti ovu pjesmu,mozda nakon 4 generacije,koliko sam skuzio!

    He want say,canaries can maybe learn this song after 4 generations,i think that! Cool

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by andiok on čet 20 stu - 11:22

    markoxp je napisao/la:Zelio je reci da bi oni tek mozda mogli nauciti ovu pjesmu,mozda nakon 4 generacije,koliko sam skuzio!

    He want say,canaries can maybe learn this song after 4 generations,i think that! Cool
    So ur telling me that if u learn to the bastard canary the slavuj song, u must create 4 generations from this bird ,
    so their babies will be able to sing this song ????

    cheers

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by Gost on čet 20 stu - 13:47

    One mogu nauciti pjesmu,ali npr. dijete nemoze nauciti govoriti ruski u godinu dana,sve ide postepeno,pa tako i sa kanarinskim generacijama,govoris ti ljepo hrvatski,bravo

    Pozdrav!

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by andiok on pet 21 stu - 22:25

    markoxp je napisao/la:One mogu nauciti pjesmu,ali npr. dijete nemoze nauciti govoriti ruski u godinu dana,sve ide postepeno,pa tako i sa kanarinskim generacijama,govoris ti ljepo hrvatski,bravo

    Pozdrav!
    Prvo Hvala za kompliment. Kako ja vidim ja sam govorio da se vrlo lijepa osoba i ja se radujem za to.

    No, preostali za kanarinac razgovoru. To nije isto kao i ljudi, jer čovjek ne može naučiti govorio kada je on 1 godina stari. Ali ja mogu reći za sigurni da osoba može govoriti 2-3 jezika ispravno u dobi od 12-14 godina.

    U druge strane na canaries (u mom iskustvu) možete učiti ih vrlo teško pjesmu i ako ptica nije krv i genetika ga ne mogu naučiti pjesmu čak i kada će biti 2 godine. Ali ako je kanarinac ima kapacitet (dobro krvi) se može naučiti pjesmu upravo kao i on ga sluša. Tako je u kanarinka sve ovisi o vrsti i sposobnosti gena. U svakom slučaju, čak i ako vas podučavaju 4 ptice je sigurno da nije 4 od njih će naučiti pjesmu dobro.
    Morate naučiti tehničke uvjete na hrana za učenje. I ne samo na canaries ali mi ovdje u Albaniji naučiti čak zlatnik da pjeva kao što želite.

    nazdravlje kicoš.
    Pozdrav!


    First thanx for the compliment. As i see i am speaking to a very nice person and i am glad for this.

    But remaining to the canary conversation. It is not the same as the humans , because a human can't learn speaking when he is 1 year old. But i can say for sure that a person can speak 2-3 languages correctly at the age of 12-14 years old.

    In the other hand to the canaries (in my experience) you can teach them a very difficult song and if the bird has not the blood and the genetics it cant learn the song even when he will be 2 years old. But if a canary has the capacity (the good blood) he can learn the song exactly as he hears it. So in the canary everything depends of the type and the capacity of the genes. Anyway even if you teach 4 birds it is for sure that not the 4 of them will learn the song good.
    You have to learn the technical conditions on canary learning . And not only on canaries but we here in Albania learn even the goldfinch to sing as we want.

    cheers dude.

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by Gost on pet 21 stu - 22:43

    Thanks dude!

    Im kid dude,kids can imposible when they learn about adults and about life!

    Cheers!

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by ticar on sub 22 stu - 3:57

    piši ti hrvatski kad ti tako dobro ide.

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by andiok on ned 23 stu - 15:57

    ticar je napisao/la:piši ti hrvatski kad ti tako dobro ide.
    im not that good in Croatian dude, so its better in English.
    thnx anyway

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by twins on pet 13 vel - 16:40

    Kanarinac srpski pevac- slavujar ne peva izvornu pesmu slavuja.on peva najlepse delove slavujeve pesme prilagodjene sebi tj. malo usporene. isto tako u njegovoj pesmi ima i najlepsih delova pesme drugih ptica.kos, seva, vuga, drozd, senica itd itd. pesma nije nasledna medjutim kanarinci ove rase vrlo lako uce tu pesmu. to su brojni odgajivaci postigli dugogodisnjim radom i selekcijom. rekoh ove rase, koja mada nije priznata u svetu(u srbiji jeste) postoji na ovim nasim prostorima vec dugi niz godina.neki ih zovu i kanarinci sa "nametnutom pesmom". u svakom slucaju nisu retki primerci koji pevaju 30 i vise tura ma koliko to ljudima koji nisu poznavaoci ovih ptica zvucalo -u najmanju ruku- neverovatno.vec desetak godina se organizuju takmicenja na kojim se mogu cuti odlicni primerci.

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by vladan bg on pet 13 vel - 17:13

    twins je napisao/la:pesma nije nasledna medjutim kanarinci ove rase vrlo lako uce tu pesmu.

    Nisam bas siguran da lako uce pesmu. To nisam primetio ni iz svog, ali ni iz iskustva ostalih odgajivaca. Cak i kod vrhunskih odgajivaca retko se desi da izadje stvarno dobra ptica... Ako na skolovanih 30 ptica dobijes dve odlicne, to je veliki uspeh.

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    Postaj by twins on sub 14 vel - 12:45

    vladan bg je napisao/la:
    twins je napisao/la:pesma nije nasledna medjutim kanarinci ove rase vrlo lako uce tu pesmu.

    Nisam bas siguran da lako uce pesmu. To nisam primetio ni iz svog, ali ni iz iskustva ostalih odgajivaca. Cak i kod vrhunskih odgajivaca retko se desi da izadje stvarno dobra ptica... Ako na skolovanih 30 ptica dobijes dve odlicne, to je veliki uspeh.

    vrhunski odgajivaci su taj epitet dobili zato sto imaju odlicne ptice u kontinuitetu. medjutim nisu oni tema. kad sam napisao lako uce mislio sam da je to odlika rase...tih 30 ptica ako skolujes svaki ce pevati bar po desetak tura.slazem se da je tesko dobiti odlicnu, ali to je draz ovog sporta.

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by Gost on sub 14 vel - 14:48

    Pa nauce je zato jos kad su mladi tata kraj njih se ne gasi cijeli dan!

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    Re: kanarinac slavujar

    Postaj by vladan bg on sub 14 vel - 15:40

    markoxp je napisao/la:Pa nauce je zato jos kad su mladi tata kraj njih se ne gasi cijeli dan!

    Zenke i mladi uopste i nisu u istoj prostoriji.Tako bi bilo najbolje gajiti slavujare, pa odgajivaci koji za to imaju uslova tako i gaje. Zato, Marko, razmisli dvaput pre nego sto napises.

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